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she doesn't just preach it, she moved from most course to siberia to make his own life more fulfilling and advance and new brands of bourbon is the one that informs the designs of cities with the needs of a human soul. how is it possible to discuss that i'm now joined by russian urban sociologist because i don't even know if that was pricing for sure. sure, sure. it was. thank you for your time. the super happy to be here. i was the i was from what i've learned about the cost, it seems to me that but in the angel days between how you doing most as to what ultimately takes priority for cio, consciousness or existence. you seem to be more non with mom or somebody. in other words, she believes that one's environment determines the perception of the world are for sure. yeah. that's fine. did i get that right? no, it's not that it's got a wealth of seem very slowly. i'd say always comes down to making your claim on something that even if you know where the, where, where they usually so one of the favor, what's my does is prominent post boxes for last the set the, all of us have

a right to the city and i go to the home now, right to shape our environment and we'll pick up on that will decide how the environment will affect doesn't re, timely, as well as a day show you much of the open dynamics in the fall. it exactly like that. and up and who is the groups of people claiming the rights to determine what s, as it should look like, designing the cities of what the nice thing that's crucial to it's each of those i've just city is not something fixed or something and bought it that they're sick of the city, and so there's always an arena when multiple different abuse costs with each other . in other words, i'm planning, you know, sense or story seems to me, the kind of city would call a good city. what really is one that enables as much of the population as possible for them to be involved in this process? the model number? yes, alicia's, i guess that's the what the weather was for doing benchmarks and how you go well, but i personally, i think those have a point to it. just plato differently a different stages of life. but some of the info environment influences your mindset. well, so then your mind just sets the environments,

but i do agree with you that in nurturing environment makes life more enjoyable and by the end, enjoyment is a basic existence show. kind of the motion that came is my question is what tools that the connection is food we use to maximize o enjoyment of life. so our happiness, some of them kind of shed no solution to them on the subject. i think you've been on the well, it's not really rocket science as we should. there are some very basic sites is the essential, is the person's mental state and sustain, usually a company or for example, living in an environment with a lot to assign the details to grab your attention. and for the job and monotone surroundings which you can often find on the edges of us that these and this of, of shipping have a negative impact on your mental health as more democracy, by contrast, and study them with. if you look at some of the old buildings to say the 19th or the 20th century is the best thing with the details of the line, your brain is actually picks up on them, making you feel better. it has a little sharp shim cook long cut. how does that work?

is it about authenticity as pro variability, or perhaps novelty, where and randomness doing was since now is the past to do with being so as captivating the what do you mean by that? the possible, the bureau though, if you look at nature, don't say when you go to the party of your company, you see trees front side and the trees of practical in nature. but if they and this to repeat the identical thoughts on the land or well also producing an insane amounts of their id numbers here, i would invite place giving up the human eye is very much used to dealing with fragile pharmacies or on the close of the environment we observe is the effect so, so far the best us and we'll show there's by some shots. so essentially the more things we create that resemble nature, unless it's diversity, can your, the easier it gets for us to deal with it. so shouldn't correct. can serious with this? yes, and they thing, what are you, by the way i learned from one of your letters of tax, but generally surprised me. you said that in deceit is where people typically leave

and mount to sort of buildings. people's perception of the world change is that once they move about a certain for the 8 for small yes, the 8 2nd. but how does it change? i pull chance are store kind of to me is because a view from the windows turns into the kind of painting. there's always just a picture with the resume. so they've been very studies looking. does he live on the 7th or 8th? i'm saving was 9th floor is that cetera with no or just as it turns out, there's a line you cross at some point of within the way you receive the view of your window. knock, cook's extra human wheel is no longer personal, but rather detached abstracts intended. um, what is your room uh, when we live on the 6th floor, we feel like we're actually involved in everything that happens in the neighborhood right here. we're the ones who are not reading it. what does a sense of engagement of belonging adjustments? so as soon as we go up, you might say to the 12 floor, nice thing about the view from the windows, it comes more like a picture with whom do i have an image on a tv screen tv, some kind of distant specs. so we have no role and you see this kind towards the sort of the suspect type to separate them when you, which obviously, you know,

things are still happening out the low. we no longer define ourselves through them . we me yeah. with no more than the cost of spectators. yes, but yeah, that's the nature of what i also recall you making the point that the rich times of the shapes prevalent and of russian from graham and spaces have a depressing effects of the human psyche. guys. yeah. could you explain why? oh, so when you say you consider a tree compared to a square, a legislative tree as well as far removed from the square as it gets thrust. um comes in much in the right time, you drink more or less it costs div trimmed into that shape on purpose. what about trick tenure in the mountains? that's an exception of course, but it happens with a mountain. we still have some side for the complex, frightful shape with it, the visual with, again funny and like i said, i wish to and natural looking objects are pleasant to look out and have you. where is objects that are low natural. so the great to the extent of some like ones that have a lot of right angles to make his oppress use with miles because it's an environment . this is not familiar to us. have

a sort of category. uh no my and environment which just keep my lodge please asian to us from an evolutionist on find the history of rights and go through the flying you while you've seen you may of thousands of years. hey, it's a good question. but from the find the show point of view, especially a building like that is more cost effective and easiest to construct. any romero she should buys in ya shall bytes or so you're exactly right. you know, a financing, joseph was throwing, obviously, building something natural looking is costly if uh yeah, i would, if i get them done is why we moved to my is our construction practice. some of them in such a way is to get the most of the square meter with this cause that'll throwing me up at our we have you noticed any changes in the overall trends? sometimes because of the one hand to the free country. if i'm with multiple generations of assembling, you have had to share the same room, but it's probably better. it's leaving a larger building that no matter how we're trying to learn, as long as they can all have separate faces, that us people's basic needs. and then we have some other necessities come into

play. is there a particular trend and rush elsewhere to sort of embellish your living space, not necessarily to make it resemble nature, but that would be way too expensive. examples like, for example, the traditional russian flag bands in towns and villages near the houses looks somewhat similar, but each has its own identity whose mother it's a, it's a cutting but there's a kind of in a lot of time, looks on distinctness of lips. don't wish the average consumers can only afford to live in a relatively uncomfortable environmental. it's just reaching a nickel for say though it's only the wealthy you can afford better environment. describe this page to initially it was a huge problem of what they bureau natural looking things of very expensive stories . so the people who can afford them and you're special with them generally live in a more pleasant environment like the social people. this is in no, it must phenomenon of what the buckeye store and unfortunately so far, not the most of it, but they reach into the mosque and see if they can only afford surroundings the

detrimental to them. i believe. so what says morgan said, is that different countries apologize susceptibility to accommodate the notion at offer time? stephen conflicting the multiple, very interesting social groups. going back to your point about the level of comfort . yeah, i've lived a menissi, it is 2 hours my life, but i chose to move to moscow. most of our cars had to leave because of very good balance here between the conference of molding solicitation to the availability of nature parks reverse that such as long as they know that you have a very different as the board of. and that's why you left the capital is typically what it's really about most co is a city cope. they have so it's both personal preferences, little spot that it's across to me. do you mean erica? as a professional. so now what comes 1st is how must go, managers is of and dynamics, or the subsidy. i left the city because i disagreed with the way it was handled as we go through it. so i'm, we're strongly, mammals. the whole process is way too for us go from a very top down and prescriptively. yep. and the most, i knew i had no way to impress by environment that i would that them move on

because they also say yes where i live today. yep. and you might feel as much more ownership, which of the city and what the story means. nothing can be imposed on me by far away stream with what do you mean by that? but i would say you want to change something in your neighborhood, so sorry. do you mean it will be much easier to do that in cross new years compared to most go more chips double a sort of or thursday? yeah, the very least because we should have, let's say i will never find myself in a situation where i'm pretty self threatened with physical violence. when i see a continuum which, which is not uncommon, i must go. let's go as far as i know in moscow and a gun, we could disagree on this progress of it. so it says here including that's a local level like in my district because in a great deal to involve the public, an urban development, it's an e mail or business to insure it may have something to do with politics. for example,

the 1st person has a say in how with talking to a neighbor who does the renovation, unless they were more likely vote for they had of the local administration, snowbirds, etc. to do this process is very slow because on the one hand, people often prefer this or paternalistic attitude where someone else does everything figure things. but then the other hand in many of them won't even clean up after the dogs and departments. but okay, let's try to balance here and it says, how do we build horizontal communication between the person trying to better shape their environment and the city of solar? it says that in a sense, just to be charged with making sure that everyone finds their environments comfortable. i know you mentioned once, i believe must go, was just too late to realize this. i said, right, they should have thought to do it is shouldn't not something such 12, my colleagues and i from the graduate school. if i lived in as a run of autism patriot and design project, right? because of the way we showed the most history through design has a kind of magic effect. to remind you, couple of people become involved. they get to open up out what they want and

they're happy with the result of yeah, use you shall see of a normal school, but the must go towards is just oh i see those on the back end when by to ignore no . so the blueprint of verifying the old top down approach equation because we met with the, with my mute while a company strong, surprisingly enough for those regional authorities across russia started selling a lot towards participates. are you having fun? a house now? it seemed as healthy to consult with local communities. i'm young about all sorts of landscaping and development project based of little stories to what i must create in moscow. if however, this approach only starts, it's getting traction a year and a half ago. well, i say better late than never does that totally happen on paper as a full procedure? what do people actually get a chance to shape their own environments of life? i mean, and green on things reaching a consensus for the neighbors. um is i've used to postpone angela. it depends on the contract to come on responding to their team, to actually see thing, gauge the residents and shooting yet and give them

a voices into them so they can have a real impact on the final project. uh, just based on what would 3 years prior to the this functions. but then there was like is who only follow the form of procedure. i assume a lot about the workshop with people only to ignore that, which is a couple with the design, something completely different level at the cx. i really am unfortunately able to be serving development is very much dependent on the contract to our the there's no professional found a lot of the no established procedures when it comes to participate, to refine a list, i'm going to utilize and process it. so they're a good contractors and there are fund one with the, you know, it's tough one customer or less that the police think the sorry to send has done that. it's in the room, political interest as the not only for the people to see the 1st when it comes to making the cd for that to you know, i chose that also for them to feel a sense of belonging of engagement. later with the big viceroy towards the service, the fleet also depends on the large agent familiar because there is no so much west egypt with your targets is going to be involved to different extent multiple things

. when we worked with algamite in the region, both of your population, we've done 2 of them funding projects, the washing, but were youth ortiz, but i'll send him a, it was very much involved. i'm hoping you might even store when we saw that he understood how meaningful they also so i want the version on. so there are also cases when the administration orders the services for them with a lot of because it looks good on paper things, but it's an order. but later on they all comes to nothing can be a pro for them. i. so that is a level we have to offer a thought right now. but so what are you going to do? research is reset and lives with it the developing, the trust. speaking of what we're going to do, we're going to take

a short my break right now, and we'll be back after short break stations. the there's no end in sight over how you're going to continue to destroy the earth. is the case for the madness of the people. i tried to go to the gym, but i'm certainly not ready to fight russia. this is also of soon. this is the 3rd world lunacy re washing as for so the funder line likes to say, we have the tools while we just start with stability and business deal. so let me, let me on my have very quick propaganda. you know a price here in new york. i think we don't know the aftermath any time that you're not allowed to ask questions, you should ask all of the questions. the more questions ask the better the answer is will be

the welcome back to the parts 1st impression urban sociologist. even though the you go to you are the creator and editor. ebony is miss life and purpose channels. i agree that urban is miss about purpose and meaning, which is life purpose for the most part. we're zillow. the tonight is viewed differently even by different people in ocean. but as of the more russian and soviet culture promoters, the measure of strong resilience peoples, it is, let's see at $1.00 oh, $7.00. d. in a way, it makes sense. okay. by tennessee g. knowledge, geography, how many gigs of history and all political contacts will adult good wish or even had to survive? but no, we're talking about moving them and not just surviving. are you living full conscious, meaningful lives in harmony of supreme genius? les leslie, me, how far do you think russians are from the pulling out of see i have with where they will have enough energy and resources is to focus on the extras that we're

talking about right now. it's a new system wants to check out the force of dividing the most most recent shows that russian is due to no, that's fine with that way of life and yeah, oh sure what they want to live in different lives. oh, it's summer. so city average russian wants to live away from big cities, which is read so really can go to the city surrounded by nature. looks like she's in a nice neighborhood with the of the low rise above and house with. and they show me that i'm saying, what is, what's in reality, real to the average person lives in an up and send things to you in a high rise building 25 lowest or even more and doesn't know that name is nice. so as i said, we don't want that much, i'm going to buy shop. this is actually a big problem with this distinction and permission, the russian dream of living comfortably to see you all know is not coming. true. comfortable? city. yeah. and use boy, it's is this problem close by the sea to is a residential issue of the average russian and up and we're still talking about the

exist on show issues here. when i hear speak, i sometimes feel like you're trying to blame for cdl far to this week. where should we start with the logic? and i'm from the offside to go from the inside. if, if we are talking about underline or even psychological issues, when people are supposed to work and understand in themselves, that's a minute who they are and what they need to do to make their lives as in the way they want them to be in open. you might still to full shapes and it's not just some personal motivation. we're dealing with so much the when presented with the choice between suburban is the low rise housing with it and, and a common in a high rise buildings that are the person to whom like more to choose the palm and liberal and then continue stream about suburban light, yeah, we are in cloudy vos talk now is a region that offers default eastern heck type programs, correct what anyone who has enough energy can get their land and do that. but as far as i know, not too many people have taken advantage of this opportunity hold. i think it was

you without them. if you're right. oh, well, that's not a very popular program. the west. there's things. one of the reasons being the fact that the land and the reason is me, i'm not really good for the fall. my guys, the mazda service can for this along that you must always be a very risky endeavor habits here. i was yesterday, but like i have, i get almost your style or the if this program will understand the thoughts i'll like us belt and that will more people will be willing to join. it's or us. this number one was it will start is cause secondly to hard. that was a much serious going by very culture is off everyone with use your card. so that's a nobody in people wants to live in low rise residential buildings. and at the same time have access to up inconveniences and school because the reason i have enough in lifestyle press the distinction a couple. there's no such options than ours. then you have to let them in the premium loans for individual housing construction. if we're not introduced until recently, when you're goes to watch new shocks and i believe is an important step towards achieving the russian dream, you know who it, but it only happened recently. and what is the russian dream, or is it like you said,

living in the countryside and being able to enjoy the blessings of civilization? no, no, no, right. of what there's nothing. zillow, converse, can you do? i have the impression that people have a security mindset. oh, they need to like presence in the old days, so the solve so hard nearby subject. so they prefer living in complex local communities. robin crowded places and buy it. the more that's why small town communities is so solid in russia ocean and the but it's also good natured. you know what they mean? also a model, but that i'm a small and you go to my personal experience with small towns. town shows that they have some uh, very pleasant social settings, especially when you're starting to work with a new to a local residence. very friendly to one another and open to all sides of the corporation. i will put it on say, appreciate good, neighboring us lucian samples. i see a store. there's some of these big cities don't have at the same time, it depends on the size of the town or perhaps and the quality of their living environment. oh, i thought you know which and she knows i size basically essential. not the jimmy

shall go to the smaller town. i suppose i'm the more chances it will have a close knit or solid community deal which they will shape and develop this town. you let them plenty of the that was on a chaise question. with rob ross guessing about 0 questions about morrison, hazel, we have a situation in his thoughts. so when this smaller the size of mister morgan influence residents have on that sounds, environment e has more than this to degrade to the site and defining what this environment will look like with. and that's the worst thing. this is the russian saying that you can take the girl, we're out of the country, you know that you can take the country out of the go. it's usually mentioned a negative way to, but in this context it's a good thing to be able to create this kind of countryside environment around your community for people who shape this environments for you pick up and make you feel it ends in doing so. they also reflect your own identity image. this know what? so some of the chicago schools says, elegy starts, isn't showing out the comparing the differences between the city and the countryside. so you've gone through assign the 20th century and show these by show

this that a big city with a specific human interactions was gap machine very different from the countryside is used on his social relations to purchase or to buy. some warranty i need is a to come become passed all day. sure for them or just the studies brought them to the conclusion about towards 1934 and the store. people living in the big cities are actually version with version concepts such as the countryside. you should video now trying to set up a network of not by close connections in the environment to tupelo. kind of this is similar to the countryside who rubles beforehand now with the comforter site, that somebody stood on the back of the worst. on the other hand, is the modern research of the countryside that comes with shared at least the role assessments located in central. russia reported unprecedented optimization. where at the muse i'd say you've got to remember that as a much medium, even by more than making published as you go forward this year. now what you're talking about, ro, areas is more than russia, so that yes, the customer model region, for example, the villages evenings of the steps are my region and you know that the know for pads

a cooperate and you still parties. and if they do join with the f us with all the locals is usually hosted in you is an extremely optimized society or the so in this sense of the destructive position of the city and the countryside is wrong. oh, at the same time we always find that big cities in the countryside and vice versa, you attempt to create a village in the big city. yeah. as far as the way i think, i know that you've completed a study of town. friendliness of what was allowed to do is to grab those several factors. when mentioned in its setup, and i've got a lot of them uh, simplicity of navigation stuff and they've got to have to be honest, i was surprised. you mean what? but almost always i would always electronic services that are available to die. or you can simply ask for directions to see how anyone can have problems in finding the right oh, because apparently the have all kinds of ways. so starting with the citizens out resumes, that's the purpose of studies. i need to, to uncover things that are surprising. you see,

these are the actual date to recall, which is surprising that i was saw some of the fight to insight power to irritate to board some to boy. i will. it turns out that some people find it essential. so i have an idea of where they are and whether it's going with you and what they should do. it electronically and electronic navigation instruments can help them here. so all the notes available widely, not yet how good really fit in the system. this is the electronic needs of navigation, is your pets or some sort of across the result to when we are desperate line for them. and we can have no idea what to go next. what you mean, the cheaper ones communication is that what you're same? you're people one on our communications and it seems really digital and means of communication. i seem to something that we result to when kind of our communication file. it's a, there's a boy on demand to the, so it's always, but we lot of time, you know, communication without using all phones. and another very important send interest to

factor that determines the perception of an open environment is the number and quality of tone it's available as this is especially mattress queen. and i can say that for myself, children, she was an elderly pico every day, but i swear, do you think 2 of us are the best of the worst in russia? you need to see, i don't know whether it was the scale of size. this is okay. think all the see it is that said a good example of disregard christiane berkeley. also, by honestly just teaching the when working cause they also what are those almost always the raw, the well appointed toilet needs to be found within walking distance. what kind of tools? throwing that to anything more than what the price on because that's why one can take very long walks across. now as far as the dropping and pause, we just bought or buying water from entry key right outside the building without having to worry about interrupting the wall. so many credit issue money and we've talked about that out. there's no sense because presley or downtown has at least 70 toilet modules installed toilet, which is a lot with an ocean logo at the. was it a deliberate effort on the part of local urban experts on yourself either or did it

just happened? it's a special attention has been paid to this insurance across my gars board that i didn't know and you have 12 block, are you still there was some special program that them on top of that sco, passionate your significance might yes. for this request, they are sort of things to consider as you might as openness who are in charge of arranging the city's public spaces. kept in mind the idea of the public spaces as post office harlots and it was done. you knows what the ship got, the car is the basic need that didn't require a special programming company. also to be able to look like we just decided to park it on a void in many of the cities is not the case. and i'm looking for that other way to remember that i am, but what do you i spoke, but i will say probably of us talking about the after the will. i spend quite a lot of time showing around the city a stay there and didn't see even once or that much roles are kind of introduced. it's almost in walking. if i go to the. yeah. and it wasn't easy enough to retrace centrally and ask the museum staff member for directions to a toilet. and she said,

in an insulted way, that's why this is a new z. i'm here. okay, what is this looking for a toilet? was something in this and that's what was embarrassing, not to go from funded russian culture on christmas. when did you think it comes from does and by shoulder and the temperatures? i'm not sure towards uh, what is essentially basic need to talk and let's just run the for your daughter. well, this is the way our culture is and pretty want to use their cultures, for example, worse and decent, able to eat outside and seem them uh present. i'm sure these things are very intimate for them that they're going to. so they don't even think of anything and publics, and their coaches in which bodily discharge and then decent something that them and some coaches, and it's not as manifest the beside the version of that i'm offer. i'm saying that for example, there street 12 is in front of that and nothing more than corners where people walk in to do that business pretty well. ok, well they show a relatively public lease as part of that. so in there's no hell wasn't, let's hope that time. and the example of crossing the gars could help change the

situation across the country toward her as been incredibly interesting to talk to you. thank you very much for your time. she was always a pleasure. thank you. for watching hope this air again was the part the, [000:00:00;00] the,

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